2026-08-28 12:46 UTC
Replies (25)
-
@WorldTravelerAll7@mastodon.world 2026-08-29 00:40
@unfa@mastodon.social i recently got the new #Murena #Fairphone 6, so no tech oligarchs in my phone. & i'm loving it 💙😊 #BreakTheOligarchy
-
@nielso@digitalcourage.social 2026-08-28 12:49
@unfa@mastodon.social So Google is going Apple. And they can do so, because we cannot do things without certain apps any more and they know.
-
@wonderfox_floof@mastodon.ml 2026-08-28 13:15
@unfa@mastodon.social i thought they already backed off a little and told it would be off-switchable. you have to wait for 24hours yes, it's still detestable but not so dire as it was at first
-
@BoysenberryCider@mastodon.social 2026-08-28 13:34
@unfa@mastodon.social Google can choke on a fat one. I literally just got my phone the way I wanted it, deleted all spyware and bloatware, and have a smooth, cool machine that never bothers me or stresses me out. And Lineage OS hasn't covered my model yet. I hate these bastards, I really do.
-
@arne_senja@mastodon.online 2026-08-28 13:44
@unfa@mastodon.social I'm quite happy with my FP4 with Murena /e/OS, except stupid VW has changed its car app to use some Google Android "security" function that blocks me out ATM. I HAVE complained. Hopefully VW realizes that the diesel scandal was enough.
-
@asael@mastodon.ml 2026-08-28 14:54
@unfa@mastodon.social I did all according to the site linked what I can do as the user. Do you think there is any action ?
-
@wannabe_alarmist@mastodon.social 2026-08-28 15:00
@unfa@mastodon.social We let these cunts to dismantle bootloaders unlocking (Huawei, then Xiaomi, then Samsung, etc.). They shill bootlicking just to let us do what we want with our phones. And now they come for our basic OS freedoms. No matter which arguments they'll try to sell, it will not have any sane sense. Degrading the capabilities for every soul on this planet WILL NOT HELP, period. Fuck these techno-feudals. #technofeudalism #android #google #vendorlock #foss
-
@raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie 2026-08-28 15:04
@unfa@mastodon.social Alphabet (Google) is being aided by banks, governments and large corporations ending web support and requiring apps for functionality that could be on Web. AND ALSO tying the app to Google framework & verification so it won't work on compatible OS, degoogled Android, without a Google account or with Google framework turned off on actual Android. Also far newer versions than Playstore supports making people's phones & tablets prematurely scrap.
-
@lambdacalculus@masto.hackers.town 2026-08-28 15:11
@unfa@mastodon.social Let me repeat what I keep saying for everyone: Hard fork of Android NOW. While the license permits it, hard fork AOSP, keep LineageOS, /e/, Calyx, and GrapheneOS as our distros and we as a community continue to make community friendly distros of Android and take it in our own directions. Google can eat shit.
-
@deirdrebeth@mas.to 2026-08-28 15:23
@unfa@mastodon.social I'm going to add "turn off auto updates for Android" as well. I've done that a couple of times on individual apps for their fuckery, never thought I'd have to do it for the OS. I'm mostly waiting for to come out on a reasonable Moto. Grrrr
-
@jbrownesq@mastodon.social 2026-08-28 17:16
@unfa@mastodon.social ive abandoned all things google and android, and ill never look back. Leaving grossly, consistently unethical companies is the best choice, not endlessly begging them to do better.
-
@sberson@app.wafrn.net 2026-08-28 17:24
@unfa@mastodon.social This would NOT "completely kill" foss repositories like F-droid, as these apps could still be installed on "degoogled" AOSP custom ROMs like Graphene, Bliss, crDroid, /e/, iode, etc. What it does is hamper their use by the vast majority of "normie" Android users though.
-
@DrKnow@techhub.social 2026-08-28 17:32
@unfa@mastodon.social we shouldn't have accepted the situation that has put us in this situation of depending on Google to decide for us. Flash your own O/S, figure it out.
-
@GarretSidzaka@mastodon.social 2026-08-28 19:28
@unfa@mastodon.social @EdTheDev@infosec.exchange They control the narrative. This is the end of freedom in android
-
@kevinrns@mstdn.social 2026-08-28 20:05
@unfa@mastodon.social Get them sued in Europe and China, and hey, and Canada? Cory Doctorow has some ideas about permanently altering tech rules. https://doctorow.medium.com/digital-elbows-up-e6eb312c2af4 #cdnpoli
-
@flare2004@aus.social 2026-08-28 21:42
@unfa@mastodon.social This is important, I used this ability to install parking apps that were restricted to specific countries whilst travelling in Europe
-
@htpcnz@mastodon.social 2026-08-28 23:25
@unfa@mastodon.social by letting Apple do its thing and pretending Android was the reason not to stop them and then not allowing a third or fourth players to enter by actively rejecting them cus duopolies works so great right and now paying the price for that shortsightedness.
-
@megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.social 2026-08-29 00:35
@unfa@mastodon.social I'm just resigning myself to carrying 2 or 3 mobiles around.
-
@chris@social.linux.pizza 2026-08-29 06:44
@unfa@mastodon.social It is so horrible. With the first smartphones, we got the promise to finally have our always with us linux pocket computer that we dreamed of since the 80s and after trying earlier attempts which were not quite there (e.g. the zaurus in my case). Now they are taking it away ... A couple of thoughts: - Why should I buy an android once it is locked down? In that case I would rather buy an apple because the last USP of android (after other useful features are long gone such as SD cards) would be gone and apple has the better hardware. - Even as a techy I cannot switch to alternative android variants as the camera support is typically weak (not their fault though). Another reason which would cause me switching to apple with their better cameras and better raw support. As bad as it is, with apple having this weird ecosystem and the shitty ux, it would still be better than android without f-droid.
-
@bill88t@c.im 2026-08-29 08:00
@unfa@mastodon.social I've had enough of hearing this. - ADB isn't going to be limited. They were vehemedly clear about it. Slapping Shizuku or any other LADB app just works, without interacting with the lockout. - The 24 hour lockout is a genuine security measure. If you think of what it'd take to stop a banana bread iq normie from installing malware, this is it. - Developer signatures have been the norm on every other platform since forever. Look it up. I'm saying it as someone with 2 MicroG phones, one pwned Mediatek phone, one stock locked phone, and experience in every other ecosystem, even including but not limited to Windows Phone. Yes, normies need to be protected. If somehow android were to present root tomorrow on every phone, the global ewaste metrics would noticably spike. Are developer signatures a good security measure? Is Google going to use it well? Kinda and no. Developer signatures on platforms like Windows do get exploited, even though they have a much stricter, tiered and annoying signature system. MicroSlop actually really tries to use it for good, but malware still slips though, and let's not talk about boomers running powershell stuff from the internet. They do introduce a way to attribute attacks to physical organizations, and offer some tracability across the web, but it doesn't do what I'd hoped it'd do. Google will hardly fare better than MicroSlop with this. But it's still better than being the wild west with just self-signed APKs. Despite it's mediocre effectiveness, is it a security improvement? Yes. Does it hurt your freedom? No, it does not. Installing apps from unknown sources isn't what your grandma should be doing. They shouldn't know it's a thing. Installing from unknown sources is, objectively, a power user action. If you're competent, you're already using ADB for everything, before the phone goes online for the first time even. Google isn't taking that away. "Aren't they going to limit ADB in the future?" Probably not ever. It's The Advanced Mode, for "expert" users. They were very explicit in their messaging that ADB is to not be touched, and is to remain the developer way of doing things. As to if they eventually touch Shizuku eventually, they probably will. LADB is a hack, yet a very nice one. They didn't take anything away. They just time-gapped it for noobs, for some modicum of security. In fact, the chinese already did this a bit. Xiaomi phones have a 10 to 30s lockout for every individual "risky" action, custom ADB options which lobotomise it severely, and require an account to disable. Those phones are 10x worse to do any of this stuff with, and show you ads every app install. Oh and they've been doing for over 10 years.
-
@failedLyndonLaRouchite@mas.to 2026-08-29 13:51
@unfa@mastodon.social I think this is true 98.6% of Android users will be happy that there is some sort of QC before an app is allowed to be installed
-
@valiant8086@mindly.social 2026-08-29 21:56
@unfa@mastodon.social far as I know, it's a one time block on sideloading, wait a day to get it to enable and then it allows side loading for anything whenever after that. it'll stop the blindly clicked yes to that ok now yes install this so I can have that thing and it'll all be good, AAAHHHHH who broke my damn phone!
-
@holdenweb@freeradical.zone 2026-08-31 08:37
@unfa@mastodon.social @gwaldby@mastodon.social Once they abandoned “don’t be evil” it was all downhill.
-
@cupcakerob@gts.cupcakerob.nl 2026-08-28 17:56
@chris @unfa@mastodon.social is this still a problem if you run graphene or lineage? To any youtuber or play store slave: you are Google's employee, but with no workers rights whatsoever. Google can take away anything and not be accountable. #monopolies #capitalismsucks
-
@Marv@wehavecookies.social 2026-09-03 21:17
@chris @unfa@mastodon.social So, Android has been developed by Google from the very beginning and they are still handling it as open source project. They just decided to make a bunch of money cause people never realised that they have started to use mini computers instead of Cellphones, which they will use even if it comes with a bunch of pre-installed invasive Software. Most people either don't know they have a choice or they just don't care how almost everything they use works.