@meganL@mas.to it kinda depends on the city. I think the Big Toilet lobby* uses strategies about perceived insecurity, costs cutting, raise of individualism and incivility, and other utopian non inclusive visions of what a city should be to convince cities to switch to a paid system. I am always happily surprised when traveling in Scandinavia to find free AND clean toilets * just kidding, those are just other companies in disguise