So here's the diagnosis First of all, evidently my ACL isn't just torn, it's gone, near as he can tell from the MRI, it literally exploded! Now the good news, I can live without an ACL, and PT Is clearly helping me, without needing any surgery The issue I have to be mindful of is occasionally my knee will buckle, and when it does, my femur and fibia basically rub against each other and if my knee buckles too often that could cause worse problems and then surgery would be recommended. I have a follow up with him in four weeks and depending upon how often my knee buckles between now and then will surgery be decided