2026-07-04 18:06 UTC
Example of a ship of theseus argument:
"Why are you [defending] a [pedophile]"
[Defending] = "[enjoying] the [work] of"
[enjoying] = "not having an extremely negative opinion of"
[work] = "one piece of media"
[pedophile] = "[groomer]"
[groomer] = "[person who was accused of being a groomer]"
[person who was accused of being a groomer] = "person who was accused of being a groomer by someone who later retracted the [accusation]"
[accusation] = "they made suggestive jokes during banter with a [child] when they were in their twenties "
[child] = "17 year old and there's no particular evidence that they knew the person was 17 at the time"
This pattern is _insidious_ and it is _everywhere_.
"The [cast] is [evil incarnate]"
[cast] = "two members of the cast out of over twenty"
[evil incarnate] = "[like the kkk]"
[like the kkk] = "[racists]"
[racists] = "made a racially insensitive joke a little under a decade ago that they subsequently apologized for"
These are both examples I've seen in the wild relatively recently.
Like, was the behavior problematic? Sure! It was even racist and we can even talk about it! But jumping from "two people made racially insensitive jokes almost ten years ago that they subsequently apologized for" (and you can make of that apology and behavior what you will: this isn't about that behavior, it's about how we describe it) to "the entire cast is evil incarnate" or "like the kkk" is a _bit_ of a stretch.
Just as in the first example there may even be things we can criticize about the behavior! But not if we start at "pedophile," which is so wildly out of proportion to what happened that we can't have a productive conversation, and not if we start at the baseline of "not hating the media" = "actively defending the creators/cast/whatever."
I need people to understand that you can just not like something. It can also just make you uncomfortable. You don't have to find moral reasons to justify your dislike and discomfort.
https://youtu.be/Ui-ArJRqEvU?si=lDpa2NRu31mBKHFA
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